Re: 29/8 FC Barcelona - Getafe
: søn aug 29, 2021 10:17 pm
Den er vist god nok…..!?
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Den er vist god nok…..!?
Some stats from today's game via Opta:
- Sergi Roberto's goal was the earliest goal Barcelona have scored under Ronald Koeman (99 seconds)
- Memphis Depay has become the first Barcelona player to be involved in a goal in each of his first 3 appearances in LaLiga (2 goals and 1 assist) since Cesc Fabrégas in 2011 (3 goals and 4 assists)
- Memphis (goal) and Frenkie De Jong (assist) are the first dutch duo to combine for a goal in LaLiga since March 2009 (Huntelaar and Robben) and the first for Barcelona since January 2004 (Kluivert and van Bronckhorst).
- Barcelona attempted 7 shots against Getafe (three shots on target), equalling their lowest total in a match at Camp Nou in LaLiga since at least 2003/04 (also seven against Eibar in January 2019 under Ernesto Valverde).
Det siger desværre alt for meget om, hvor holdet er på vej hen under Koeman- Barcelona attempted 7 shots against Getafe (three shots on target), equalling their lowest total in a match at Camp Nou in LaLiga since at least 2003/04 (also seven against Eibar in January 2019 under Ernesto Valverde).
En blindgyde.EasyBuddhist skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 9:42 amDet siger desværre alt for meget om, hvor holdet er på vej hen under Koeman- Barcelona attempted 7 shots against Getafe (three shots on target), equalling their lowest total in a match at Camp Nou in LaLiga since at least 2003/04 (also seven against Eibar in January 2019 under Ernesto Valverde).
jeg er enig. Jeg vil os se mere til puig meget få minutter han har fået. Ville gerne se ham spille 3-4 kampe fuld tid og vurdere ham på det vi mangler noget uforudsigelighed og kreativitet på den midtbane og der mener jeg vi kun har puig og coutinho som opfylder dette.Dytrax skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 10:50 amEn blindgyde.EasyBuddhist skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 9:42 amDet siger desværre alt for meget om, hvor holdet er på vej hen under Koeman- Barcelona attempted 7 shots against Getafe (three shots on target), equalling their lowest total in a match at Camp Nou in LaLiga since at least 2003/04 (also seven against Eibar in January 2019 under Ernesto Valverde).
Jeg har ingen forventninger til CL, med tanke på omstændighederne netop nu, men det er sgu svært at sluge, at det er Koeman, der skal sætte de første sten i forhold til en genopbygning.
Spillere som Puig, Collado og Trincao, indgår ikke i planerne, men Lenglet, der ikke ligefrem har spillet fejlfrit, får masser af spilletid. Det er ikke spillermateriale, jeg mener, men trænerens håndtering af spillerne.
Han er uhyre konsekvent overfor f.eks. Puig, men ikke Lenglet?
Nå, jeg skal nok afholde mig fra at psykoanalysere. Det er bare frustration, der taler.
Vi er kun lige begyndt på sæsonen, men nu har vi haft Koeman længe nok til at kunne få en ide om det fodbold, han er eksponent for.Watching Pedri in the Euros which I personally feel was the best version of him makes me think if I should really be thankful to Koeman or kind of disappointed again because he is more effective for Spain than Barcelona.
Trincao was balling before Koeman, sent away. Collado showed glimpses of brilliance, ousted. Puig MOTM against Atletico, shunned despite having a great pre-season. Demir given chances in pre-season and showed promise, 0 starts.
What exactly did the pre-season establish then? If the coach is only going to make decisions based on his bias, why even bother having a pre-season.
Coutinho har ingen fart og så er hans taktiske evner meget begrænset, når vi snakker Barca stilen. Han har vist flere gange at han fejler i både opspil og bagud, når der skal presses og forsvares. Demir ser mere lovende ud, i hvert fald i den offensive del. Han får lavet nogle gode temposkift, både med bold, men også qua hans afleveringer og hans ganske fornuftige én mod én kvaliteter. Med andre ord, der sker lidt mere, når han får bolden. Men altså, jeg synes også klart at Puig er den bedste mulighed, der er i truppen.Filten skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 11:59 amjeg er enig. Jeg vil os se mere til puig meget få minutter han har fået. Ville gerne se ham spille 3-4 kampe fuld tid og vurdere ham på det vi mangler noget uforudsigelighed og kreativitet på den midtbane og der mener jeg vi kun har puig og coutinho som opfylder dette.Dytrax skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 10:50 amEn blindgyde.EasyBuddhist skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 9:42 amDet siger desværre alt for meget om, hvor holdet er på vej hen under Koeman- Barcelona attempted 7 shots against Getafe (three shots on target), equalling their lowest total in a match at Camp Nou in LaLiga since at least 2003/04 (also seven against Eibar in January 2019 under Ernesto Valverde).
Jeg har ingen forventninger til CL, med tanke på omstændighederne netop nu, men det er sgu svært at sluge, at det er Koeman, der skal sætte de første sten i forhold til en genopbygning.
Spillere som Puig, Collado og Trincao, indgår ikke i planerne, men Lenglet, der ikke ligefrem har spillet fejlfrit, får masser af spilletid. Det er ikke spillermateriale, jeg mener, men trænerens håndtering af spillerne.
Han er uhyre konsekvent overfor f.eks. Puig, men ikke Lenglet?
Nå, jeg skal nok afholde mig fra at psykoanalysere. Det er bare frustration, der taler.
Ja, og de sociale medier er fyldt med de kommentarer. Hvis Koeman ikke får vendt denne strøm meget hurtigt, så er han dead man walking.Dytrax skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 12:41 pmKommentar set på Barça-relateret side:
Vi er kun lige begyndt på sæsonen, men nu har vi haft Koeman længe nok til at kunne få en ide om det fodbold, han er eksponent for.Watching Pedri in the Euros which I personally feel was the best version of him makes me think if I should really be thankful to Koeman or kind of disappointed again because he is more effective for Spain than Barcelona.
Trincao was balling before Koeman, sent away. Collado showed glimpses of brilliance, ousted. Puig MOTM against Atletico, shunned despite having a great pre-season. Demir given chances in pre-season and showed promise, 0 starts.
What exactly did the pre-season establish then? If the coach is only going to make decisions based on his bias, why even bother having a pre-season.
Og jeg må indrømme, at det er svært at se, hvad den overordnede plan er.
Dette stykke;EasyBuddhist skrev: ↑man aug 30, 2021 1:08 pmhttps://www.barcablaugranes.com/2021/8/ ... e-me-wrong
Jep, der går ikke lang tid inden, han er væk. Kritikken vil kun tage til fra nu af.
Er lige på kornet og hvis ikke Koeman skiftes ud, kan det risikere at lamme udviklingen af talenter. Simpelthen fordi RK er stædig og taktisk ufleksibel.While Koeman is not the worst coach out there, he lacks some essential qualities that any Barca manager should have. First of all nobody can accuse Koeman of having a larger vision, nor an expansive imagination that would allow for the optimal engagement of players. He is the opposite of a flexible problem solver. His tactical decisions against stronger teams have proven to be embarrassing. Not to mention his very partial, petty and often prejudicial treatment of players that he likes or dislikes. He tends to think small. He's defensive. Those deficiencies disqualify him as a top flight coach.
Coaches like players can improve or decline. The thing with Koeman is his chronic intransigence. He is his worst enemy. RK has proven his inability to change his mind. It is hard to detect a spark or cunning in his approach. There is a stubborn dullness to his method. His obstinacy is apparent even in his body language. His self-awareness or agility seem to be missing. The players are aware of his shortcomings, for now they have to tiptoe around the bull's head and as a result the team cannot be spontaneous or open to sharing and trying new things together. It could be difficult for the young players to grow their game under the coach who does not have a larger vision.
As it is now, we may end up being subjected to watching a series of painful performances (I really hope that I am wrong here) until Koeman is finally sacked, not unlikely in the middle of the next season. This season could be a roller coaster to watch.
The hardest part of this process is the possibility that it can have a long term demoralizing effect on the team, infecting players with the coach's mediocrity and emotional defensiveness. It will turn away millions of Barca's fans not willing to watch this dogmatic, stubborn, prejudicial manager usher one of the World's best teams into the uninspired, mid table plateau. This is yet another Bartomeu legacy that will haunt Barca for years to come. Again and again, I truly hope to be proven wrong here. Let me be wrong! Prove me wrong Koeman.