Re: Miralem Pjanic
: tors aug 19, 2021 10:12 am
Hvis ikke Balde tager verden med storm, føler jeg lidt, at du skylder os alle en omgang…1L’s bægerEasyBuddhist skrev: ↑tors aug 19, 2021 10:12 amSelvfølgelig, men som det ser ud nu, så er det kun et spørgsmål om tid, før Balde tager pladsen. Monstertalent.
Ja, det kan man godt sige men realistisk set, så går det altså et par år endnu, inden man for alvor kan sige, om han får indløst potentialet. Det samme gælder Gavi, som jo var de to, jeg mere eller mindre lagde hovedet på blokken for, da jeg kaldte dem verdensklasse talenter. I vinters. Indtil videre ser det jo fint nok udAntimadridista skrev: ↑tors aug 19, 2021 2:35 pmHvis ikke Balde tager verden med storm, føler jeg lidt, at du skylder os alle en omgang…1L’s bægerEasyBuddhist skrev: ↑tors aug 19, 2021 10:12 amSelvfølgelig, men som det ser ud nu, så er det kun et spørgsmål om tid, før Balde tager pladsen. Monstertalent.
Jamen jeg har ok tidEasyBuddhist skrev: ↑tors aug 19, 2021 2:56 pmJa, det kan man godt sige men realistisk set, så går det altså et par år endnu, inden man for alvor kan sige, om han får indløst potentialet. Det samme gælder Gavi, som jo var de to, jeg mere eller mindre lagde hovedet på blokken for, da jeg kaldte dem verdensklasse talenter. I vinters. Indtil videre ser det jo fint nok udAntimadridista skrev: ↑tors aug 19, 2021 2:35 pmHvis ikke Balde tager verden med storm, føler jeg lidt, at du skylder os alle en omgang…1L’s bægerEasyBuddhist skrev: ↑tors aug 19, 2021 10:12 amSelvfølgelig, men som det ser ud nu, så er det kun et spørgsmål om tid, før Balde tager pladsen. Monstertalent.
Det lyder jo præcis, som det vi har hørt fra andre spillere om Koeman, fra tidligere klubber. Han er seriøst en klaphat. Uanset om Pjanic er god eller dårlig for os, så er det respektløst. Det er jo ikke fordi han har modsat sig noget.Miralem Pjanic to @Marca: “Koeman disrespected me. He was never talking to me! I’m a player who can accept everything but I would always like it to be explained to me… and not as if I was 15. I agreed to lower my salary and join Besiktas because I love playing football”. #FCB
Sædet bliver varmt meget hurtigt, hvis han ikke ændrer stilKvoller skrev: ↑fre sep 03, 2021 11:37 pmDet lyder jo præcis, som det vi har hørt fra andre spillere om Koeman, fra tidligere klubber. Han er seriøst en klaphat. Uanset om Pjanic er god eller dårlig for os, så er det respektløst. Det er jo ikke fordi han har modsat sig noget.Miralem Pjanic to @Marca: “Koeman disrespected me. He was never talking to me! I’m a player who can accept everything but I would always like it to be explained to me… and not as if I was 15. I agreed to lower my salary and join Besiktas because I love playing football”. #FCB
Koeman er simpelthen en ringe træner, med endnu værre mandskabspleje.
Det er lige præcis dét, der er et af kardinalpunkterne mod Koeman; Den ringe mandskabsbehandling.EasyBuddhist skrev: ↑lør sep 04, 2021 12:07 amSædet bliver varmt meget hurtigt, hvis han ikke ændrer stilKvoller skrev: ↑fre sep 03, 2021 11:37 pmDet lyder jo præcis, som det vi har hørt fra andre spillere om Koeman, fra tidligere klubber. Han er seriøst en klaphat. Uanset om Pjanic er god eller dårlig for os, så er det respektløst. Det er jo ikke fordi han har modsat sig noget.Miralem Pjanic to @Marca: “Koeman disrespected me. He was never talking to me! I’m a player who can accept everything but I would always like it to be explained to me… and not as if I was 15. I agreed to lower my salary and join Besiktas because I love playing football”. #FCB
Koeman er simpelthen en ringe træner, med endnu værre mandskabspleje.
Pjanic speaking to Marca in an exclusive interview about Koeman's treatement on him :
Pjanic : "Right now, today, I don't know what he wanted exactly. He didn't try to explain things to me or find a solution. I would go to ask him what he wanted from me, positionally or what I was doing well or badly. I wanted to adapt as quickly as possible to the team and be useful.
Pjanic : "You need 17 or 18 players from a squad to win titles. He didn't have problems with my play and didn't give me answers. Time went on and the situation went from bad to worse, without any reason. Like I said, I was being professional, so this is difficult to understand. Many people on the inside didn't understand it either. Then there was this opportunity to leave and I wanted to listen to that, because I need to play. I know what I can bring to a team, but you need confidence and dialogue and things to be said to your face."
Pjanic : "I'd have preferred things to be said to me directly, but it was what it was. It was a very odd way of communicating and it's the first time I've ever experienced this. I've had a very good relationship with all of my coaches. I don't know what happened, I honestly don't know. He didn't want responsibility or confrontation, because I guess that couldn't be handled."
You started the season by playing in the Champions League, but not in LaLiga Santander. You had no continuity. Why did it take so much for you to play?
Pjanic : "Everyone asks me that, they want to know. But so do I, I want to know. He never told me or asked if I wanted to play as a two or in front of the defence. I reached a Champions League final playing as a double pivot with [Sami] Khedira. I've played everywhere, but he never saw me in any of them. I didn't have a position, I got five or 10 minutes, or would warm up for 45 minutes but not play. I've never had a situation like it and it wasn't easy. You have to be tough, because sometimes I could have reacted badly to him, but I was always respectful with him and my teammates."
Pjanic : He had a cross against me from the beginning. It was hard to accept. I waited until the end for things to change. I played all of the Champions League games and we won 2-0 in Turin. Then LaLiga Santander comes along and I'm out. I was going to ask him if I was doing something wrong."
Pjanic : Maybe he wanted something different than [Massimiliano] Allegri, [Maurizio] Sarri, Luis Enrique or [Luciano] Spalletti. They all have different things, but they communicate. It's good for the team. 'No, no, it's only rotation, I have no problem, your attitude is good...'. Okay, fine, but then I was out for longer. I didn't understand. He's a very, very strange coach. It's the first time I've seen someone like this."
Were you always the one to go to speak to him? Did he never look for you?
Pjanic : "Never, except one day at the start of this season when he came to speak with me and only asked about my situation. I told him I wanted to play... I came from Serie A with four titles, a Champions League final, 100 Champions League games. I had experience and I know what I can do. I don't know what to tell you. It wasn't easy. I really like playing football."
What do you think the reason is? What can explain it? Maybe he didn't like you asking for playing time in the press...
Pjanic : "I've honestly asked myself a lot of times, wondering what I did wrong. Maybe he didn't like that I said I wanted to play more public. But any coach would say 'okay, this is a competition and I like to hear that'. That might be it, but I'd have liked him to tell me to my face that I wasn't for him. It didn't exist though and I don't understand him. It's complicated because it's the first time it's happened to me and I've never seen behaviour like that before."
Did you look for someone in the club to find a solution?
"I spoke to people, yeah. At the beginning a little, and then again close to the end. They told me that the understood my disappointment and that they saw me train well, but that they couldn't do anything. Nobody understood. They thanked me for my attitude, but what does that matter to me? I know I'm a good professional. I know the club knew what I was like before they signed me. I'm a competitor, I'm always good with the group and I was there. It was a pleasure to play with and work with those guys. I would have liked to help the team more, but I didn't have the chance."
The second half of the season was the worst. Eleven straight games without playing, even with five substitutes available. How was that?
Pjanic : "I wasn't alone. You can look closely and see there were others. I don't want to talk about them, they can talk if they want to. How do you think it was? From February until May I hardly played. I was very disappointed. I could have said 'I've a three-year contract so I don't care', but I'm not like that. It was a very difficult situation to accept, but I wasn't going to fight. There was a person who was never going to change. He's the coach."
Pjanic : "There was a lack of respect for the club, for those who didn't play after training well. The coach was never there (in training) to see the attitude of the players who didn't play. It's the first time I've seen that. How can a player be motivated to show he's there when the coach isn't there to see the attitude or how he trains? It was one of the worst things I've seen, a huge lack of respect and it wasn't easy for those of us not playing. Now I've found a solution to play and I'm happy."
Did you think that Barcelona would have offered you the chance to rescind your contract?
Pjanic : "That's a question for them, not for me. I've always understood that everyone has problems, but there are ways of finding solutions together. I'm not stupid. I understand everything. But it has to be done with respect. I've helped the club a lot, I was aware of the salaries and made an effort when I signed to earn less there than before. But I'm not a person who likes to talk about that, and I haven't spoken much through this entire situation. I hope that Barcelona do well in the future, economically and sportingly. I want those teammates to win a lot because they deserve it."
It has been reported that your salary has been reduced. Why did you do that?
Pjanic : "I like football. The economic side is important, but what I love the most in life, after my son, is playing football. I like to be happy, to be with my teammates, everything about football. I'd do these things without any problems, because being happy is the most important thing."
Has the door to Barcelona been closed?
Pjanic : "I have a contract and I've always spoken highly of the club. I just had bad luck with the coach. But Barcelona are Barcelona. I cannot spend another year without playing, I have to play. I'm focused, happy and I can't wait to start the season with Besiktas."
Do you regret signing for Barcelona?
Pjanic : "No, never. Things happen in life, and I've always fought through my career. I'm ambitious, competitive, I've reached the level of Barcelona and Juventus. I know I can play for those teams, I just wasn't given a chance."
Have you been disrespected?
Pjanic : "By the coach, yes. Yes."
How did you experience the transfer window? There was talk of you returning to Juventus and Serie A.
Pjanic : "It's true. There were a lot of things. Not a lot of clubs had a great window, only Paris Saint-Germain, I don't know how they've done it. The English clubs too. It was stressful, I thought about my situation, but until I got a call I was focused on training. But, it was difficult." [MARCA]
Det værste er, at hans mentalitet smitter så meget af på banen, som den gør. Man kan se det over hele linjen med elendigt spil, forårsaget af en endeløs række af dårlige beslutninger og ringe coachig arbejde på helt simpelt basal niveau.
Kommer altså os an på om dem på bænken kan gøre en forskel og kan de fleste ikke som er i truppen pt. ImoNorbit skrev: ↑lør sep 04, 2021 2:15 pmSå er det vel godt at klubben arbejder på at forlænge hans kontrakt.. Det er jo de samme 11 som får fast spilletid - såfremt de er klar. Pjanic har fuldkommen ret. Du skal bruge hele bredden for at vinde titler - 17-18 mand. Sidste sæson kørte holdet også død i mod slutningen.
Collado, Pjanic og en masse andre er tydelige eksempler på hvorfor akademi spillerne vælger at skride. Det sejler jo fuldkommen.
Enig, men det hjælper heller ikke at spillerne ikke får minutter. Vi kunne snildt have givet Pjanic 5-15 kampe mere gennem hele sæsonen. De Jong/Pedri/Busquets fik samtlige kampe. Akkurat som det er i denne sæson. Selv efter en skade får De Jong 90 minutter.Filten skrev: ↑lør sep 04, 2021 2:31 pmKommer altså os an på om dem på bænken kan gøre en forskel og kan de fleste ikke som er i truppen pt. ImoNorbit skrev: ↑lør sep 04, 2021 2:15 pmSå er det vel godt at klubben arbejder på at forlænge hans kontrakt.. Det er jo de samme 11 som får fast spilletid - såfremt de er klar. Pjanic har fuldkommen ret. Du skal bruge hele bredden for at vinde titler - 17-18 mand. Sidste sæson kørte holdet også død i mod slutningen.
Collado, Pjanic og en masse andre er tydelige eksempler på hvorfor akademi spillerne vælger at skride. Det sejler jo fuldkommen.
Det er jeg meget uenig i. Jeg synes, for det første, absolut ikke præstationerne af starterne altid har været lige overbevisende, måske endda tværtimod for rigtig mange af dem, og for det andet, så handler det også om at spille hele truppen i form.Filten skrev: ↑lør sep 04, 2021 2:31 pmKommer altså os an på om dem på bænken kan gøre en forskel og kan de fleste ikke som er i truppen pt. ImoNorbit skrev: ↑lør sep 04, 2021 2:15 pmSå er det vel godt at klubben arbejder på at forlænge hans kontrakt.. Det er jo de samme 11 som får fast spilletid - såfremt de er klar. Pjanic har fuldkommen ret. Du skal bruge hele bredden for at vinde titler - 17-18 mand. Sidste sæson kørte holdet også død i mod slutningen.
Collado, Pjanic og en masse andre er tydelige eksempler på hvorfor akademi spillerne vælger at skride. Det sejler jo fuldkommen.