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Re: Ivan Rakitić

: tors jun 05, 2014 11:52 pm
af A$AP
Billede

Damen ser også meget godt ud, en god kompensation for Cesc' Daniella.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: tors jun 05, 2014 11:57 pm
af BarçaDK
Skydefinten skrev:In Song we trust. (Eller også ryger Masch på midten)
Prøv at tænk, hvis Xavi og Cesc ryger og Song for lov at sejle videre... :lol:

Eller, det er vel ikke engang sjovt.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: tors jun 05, 2014 11:59 pm
af Quaresma
Hahahhahah, det fik lige op for mig, at der rent faktisk er mulighed for, at vi både mister Xavi, Cesc og Song i dette transfervindue. Det var lige halvdelen af vores midtbane.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 12:01 am
af Heartbreaker
Glemmer I Reus? :>

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 12:01 am
af Quaresma
Er de ikke den samme?

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 12:03 am
af Heartbreaker
Måske. Stik mig lidt musik i musik-tråden, Q :i

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 12:03 am
af Kubala
Skydefinten skrev:In Song we trust. (Eller også ryger Masch på midten)
Song...

Billede

Og det er ikke nok med kun Masch, da skader forekommer. Desuden skifter man to rutinerede spillere ud med to unge, selvom den ene af dem har haft en god sæson.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 12:08 am
af Piquénbauer
De her indlæg fra sevilla fans gør mig lidt nervøse (fra barcaforum):
Rakitic is a very good player... he plays well and helps the squad a lot. After all, he is Sevilla's captain this season and I admire him, his character and skills, especially his long balls, corner kicks and free kicks (crosses in the box, as he rarely shoots from a free kick). Nevertheless, I can't imagine him replacing Gabi at Atletico. Gabi doesn't seem multi-dimensional and a talented player, or at least he doesn't give one an impression as such. However, Rakitic will never ever in his career even come close to Gabi's work rate during a match. Gabi's pressure, running, marking and fight could not be compared to Rak's, and that is what Rakitic's role actually is most of the time, the DM-CM thing... but he just doesn't do it. He has his sparks, like against Madrid, putting Pepe in shame, but I guess you have seen his first half performance = disastrous. That is Rakitic in most of the matches, in both halves of the game, slow and lazy, but still has those sparks. Would that be enough in Atletico's powerful and winner's machinery ? Probably not.

I fear that if Captain Rak would sign for Atletico, he will not be more than a sub... unless they change their playing style and somehow make way for Rak to slide into the first team. I doubt that very much, considering that Koke and/or Suarez, Thiago are also needed. The only way Rak could play as a first-teamer in Atletico is if they would feature both him and Gabi at the same time, which could happen, but I still doubt since they more or less have the same role. It would mean for one of them to be forced to play more deep or more forward upfront, and that would possibly not turn out to be effective.
That would be quite a change in Atleti's playing style and philosophy. Gabi, Suarez, Tiago, Koke are all tough men in the midfield. Rakitic will never achieve their speed and/or work rate during a match, the man-marking, aggressiveness when needed. He would probably not do more of what Diego is capable of doing currently in Atleti, that's why Diego is benched, because he plays more up front, just as the natural role of Rakitic. He is being forced to play very deep lately for Sevilla because of our first team DM injuries, Cristoforo 6 months and Carrico now will be available in a week or two, shifting Rakitic to the natural AM position. He is crap at playing deep, don't let that RM match trick you because the second half was a whole different story, in the first he was the worst player of Sevilla.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 12:10 am
af Quaresma
Heartbreaker skrev:Måske. Stik mig lidt musik i musik-tråden, Q :i
Billede

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 2:00 pm
af Elbarca
15-20 mil? Satme billigt nu om dage

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Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 2:42 pm
af Drake
Piquénbauer skrev:De her indlæg fra sevilla fans gør mig lidt nervøse (fra barcaforum):
Rakitic is a very good player... he plays well and helps the squad a lot. After all, he is Sevilla's captain this season and I admire him, his character and skills, especially his long balls, corner kicks and free kicks (crosses in the box, as he rarely shoots from a free kick). Nevertheless, I can't imagine him replacing Gabi at Atletico. Gabi doesn't seem multi-dimensional and a talented player, or at least he doesn't give one an impression as such. However, Rakitic will never ever in his career even come close to Gabi's work rate during a match. Gabi's pressure, running, marking and fight could not be compared to Rak's, and that is what Rakitic's role actually is most of the time, the DM-CM thing... but he just doesn't do it. He has his sparks, like against Madrid, putting Pepe in shame, but I guess you have seen his first half performance = disastrous. That is Rakitic in most of the matches, in both halves of the game, slow and lazy, but still has those sparks. Would that be enough in Atletico's powerful and winner's machinery ? Probably not.

I fear that if Captain Rak would sign for Atletico, he will not be more than a sub... unless they change their playing style and somehow make way for Rak to slide into the first team. I doubt that very much, considering that Koke and/or Suarez, Thiago are also needed. The only way Rak could play as a first-teamer in Atletico is if they would feature both him and Gabi at the same time, which could happen, but I still doubt since they more or less have the same role. It would mean for one of them to be forced to play more deep or more forward upfront, and that would possibly not turn out to be effective.
That would be quite a change in Atleti's playing style and philosophy. Gabi, Suarez, Tiago, Koke are all tough men in the midfield. Rakitic will never achieve their speed and/or work rate during a match, the man-marking, aggressiveness when needed. He would probably not do more of what Diego is capable of doing currently in Atleti, that's why Diego is benched, because he plays more up front, just as the natural role of Rakitic. He is being forced to play very deep lately for Sevilla because of our first team DM injuries, Cristoforo 6 months and Carrico now will be available in a week or two, shifting Rakitic to the natural AM position. He is crap at playing deep, don't let that RM match trick you because the second half was a whole different story, in the first he was the worst player of Sevilla.
Hvis det der bliver sagt om Rakitić er rigtig. Så håber jeg virkelig ikke at vi køber ham. For hvis vi skal have en anden type spiller, skal den spiller have en meget stor løbevillighed! Ellers synes jeg kun det bliver en hemsko for vores spil. For som jeg ser det, hvis vi skal have en anden type, skal han have en del andre kvaliteter ind de andre vi harm der under løbevillighed, fysik styrke og luftspillet.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 3:01 pm
af Kubala
Fuldkommen ligegyldig sammenligning, da Gabi er en dybtliggende defensiv spilfordeler, mens Rakitic er CM. Desuden to fans, der siger det der. Hvad skal man bruge det til.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 3:11 pm
af Piquénbauer
Hmm de har vel fulgt rakitic mere end os? Desuden sammenligner de ikke spillernes egenskaber men arbejdsmoral. Pointen var at han måske ikke er så hårdtarbejde som alle os barca fans tror. Men tror så heller ikke at LE ville købe en doven spiller...

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 3:13 pm
af Kubala
Hmm de har vel fulgt rakitic mere end os
Det har de sikkert, men jeg lytter ikke til fans. Vi har det med at overdramatisere. Mht. arbejdsmoral, så arbejder Busi vel også mere end de andre midtbanespillere. Alle har forskellige roller på holdet. De prøver at sammenligne to vidt forskellige spillere, med vidt forskellige roller på banen.

Re: Ivan Rakitić

: fre jun 06, 2014 3:20 pm
af Piquénbauer
Men eftersom vi fans ser alle vores holds kampe så kan vi vel godt sige hvem der arbejder og ikke gør? Det eneste der var pointen med dette indlæg var at folk har malet et billede af rakitic som en hårdt arbejdende spiller. Dette er måske ikke helt sandt. Men nu må vi vente og se hvordan han er under LE og iført barca trøjen.