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Altså scoret fordi Iker ikke gik efter den i og med at fløjten var lydt. Men Victor tror jeg at det var, var på vej imod Real målet alene og havde kun Pepe som hindring, som ikke var en så stor hindring igen.

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Her er videoen med "offsiden" hvis nogen er interesserede. Man kan dog ikke se linjevogterens placering...

[Visca El Barca]

Proev og overveje hvor uintelligent Marcelo er, han kan se at Mallorca spilleren er paa egen banehalvdel og han selv
ogsaa staar paa midterlinjen, men han proever at traekke offside ..

Man kan saa sige at dommeren/linjedommeren er endnu mere uintelligent, at de doemmer offside, men altsaa, jeg har altid syntes Marcelo var decideret dum, og det her bekraefter det.

[Visca El Barca]

After the last refereeing erros against Barça and in favor of Madrid …

This is what would have happened if Guardiola had cried about them like Mourinho

“Why? .. I don’t understand why … I don’t know if it’s BWIN’s sponsorship … I don’t know if it’s the power of PP and Rajoy …I don’t know if they are very nice … I don’t know … I don’t understand .. why? I don’t understand why…”

[Visca El Barca]

Record Mourinho in 18 games against Barcelona: 4W - 6D - 8L #fcblive #elclasico [via @infostradalive]

Er det ikke 3 kampe han har vundet mod os? 4-2 sejren med Chelsea, 3-1 med Inter og saa 0-1 i CDR? Har jeg misset nederlaget nr. 4?

[Alcantara]

Record Mourinho in 18 games against Barcelona: 4W - 6D - 8L #fcblive #elclasico [via @infostradalive]

Er det ikke 3 kampe han har vundet mod os? 4-2 sejren med Chelsea, 3-1 med Inter og saa 0-1 i CDR? Har jeg misset nederlaget nr. 4?

Så vidt jeg husker var der også et nederlag i 06/07-sæsonen, hvor vi tabte 1-0 mod Chelsea på et mål af Drogba på Stamford Bridge.

[Visca El Barca]

Record Mourinho in 18 games against Barcelona: 4W - 6D - 8L #fcblive #elclasico [via @infostradalive]

Er det ikke 3 kampe han har vundet mod os? 4-2 sejren med Chelsea, 3-1 med Inter og saa 0-1 i CDR? Har jeg misset nederlaget nr. 4?

Så vidt jeg husker var der også et nederlag i 06/07-sæsonen, hvor vi tabte 1-0 mod Chelsea på et mål af Drogba på Stamford Bridge.

Var de i gruppe med os? Eller taenker du paa kampen i 05/06, hvor de kom foran men tabte 2-1 til os, Samu scorede sejrsmaalet, paa hovedet. Det var i den kamp, Del Horno blev vist ud? Og ham som var kendt som oversaetteren men hedder Jose Mourinho i virkeligheden, beskyldte Leo for skuespil?.

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De var i gruppe med os i 06-07, ja. Vi tabte ganske rigtigt 1-0 på Stamford Bridge og spillede efterfølgende 2-2 på Camp Nou, og så havde vi den afgørende kamp mod Werder som blev spillet i Bremen, hvor Ronaldinho scorede det geniale frisparksmål, hvor han sparkede den under muren og fuldstændig snød Tim Wiese! Husker det ligeså tydeligt - jeg var på Tenerife!

[Visca El Barca]

De var i gruppe med os i 06-07, ja. Vi tabte ganske rigtigt 1-0 på Stamford Bridge og spillede efterfølgende 2-2 på Camp Nou, og så havde vi den afgørende kamp mod Werder som blev spillet i Bremen, hvor Ronaldinho scorede det geniale frisparksmål, hvor han sparkede den under muren og fuldstændig snød Tim Wiese! Husker det ligeså tydeligt - jeg var på Tenerife!

Aha ok, hvorfor har jeg glemt det? Underligt. Naarh men nu har han tabte hele 9 gange imod os, lad os haabe det fortsaetter!.

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"Mourinhos reserver", ligefrem? Nu var det jo ikke fordi, de stillede op med Castilla-opstillingen, og gad vide, om deres reservekeeper havde lavet de samme redninger som Casillas...

Men de skal da have en cadeau for dette afsnit:

Også midt på banen var der frisk blod. Pepe havde trukket hardhitter-kostumet på og han agerede dørmand foran forsvaret, hvilket var en ganske fornuftig disposition. Ikke mindst da Pepe var god til at veksle mellem hårdt pres frem i banen og så at lade sig falde tilbage, for at agere ekstra forsvarsspiller. Desværre viste han også sin pinagtige side med flere overdramatiserede situationer og ikke mindst et unødvendigt angreb på Messis hånd. Sidstnævnte gik kampens ellers glimrende trio forbi, men man må håbe, at RFEF tager sagen op og giver Pepe den fornødne straf.

Jeg begynder så småt at tro, at det er én bestemt skribent på den side, der laver de forfærdelige nyhedsartikler, mens resten (hvor mange de end har) egentlig er OK.

[Visca El Barca]

Real Madrid's Jose Mourinho: Winning the league without beating Barcelona would feel great
Los Blancos have yet to defeat their Catalan rivals in any competition so far this season but their Portuguese boss would not care so long as they ended up lifting the title

Jan 19, 2012 11:30:00 AM
By Mark Doyle

Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho has claimed that he would have no problem winning La Liga without having beaten principal rivals Barcelona this season.


Wednesday night’s defeat in the first-leg of their Copa del Rey quarter-final tie with the Catalans means that Los Blancos have now failed to defeat their rivals in any of their four meetings so far this season.

Consequently, Mourinho was asked after the game how he would feel if his side managed to win La Liga, in which they currently have a five-point lead over Barca, without having triumphed at least once in a Clasico.

The Portuguese replied to reporters after the game: “I’d feel great.”

Mourinho took full responsibility for his side’s latest loss to Barca but when prompted for his thoughts on the performances of Ricardo Carvalho, after months out through injury, and Hamit Altintop, who has seen little game time this season, the former Inter boss suggested that some of his first-team regulars had let him down.

“They [Carvalho and Altintop] both played very well,” he claimed. “People who normally play very well did not do as well.

“Altintop did his job with personality and Carvalho also. I have to defend both because they approached a tough game without any fear.

“The easiest thing for Carvalho to have done would have been to say that he could not play in a game of this size.”

Looking ahead to the return leg at Camp Nou, Mourinho added that it is imperative that Madrid strike early.

“We must score first to unsettle them,” he admitted. “But Barcelona is a great team and my team must make no defensive errors.”

Before the second leg, Madrid must take on Athletic Bilbao in La Liga this weekend.

[Visca El Barca]

Will winning La Liga but losing the Barcelona Clasicos be enough to save Jose Mourinho his Real Madrid job?
The Portuguese saw his side lose once again to the eternal enemy and there are now question marks hanging over his future with the capital club

Jan 19, 2012 10:30:00 AM

By Ben Hayward | Spanish Football Editor

Another year, another Clasico. But 2012's first meeting with Barcelona ended in an all-too-similar fashion for Real Madrid and their fans, with a 2-1 defeat at the hands of their fiercest foes on Wednesday night.

There was a sense of deja-vu as Madrid took an early lead, as they had done in December's match at the Santiago Bernabeu, but were unable to hold on as Barca bounced back and showed their superiority in the second half. Once again, Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid had taken the initiative. But once again they had flattered to deceive.


Mourinho was brought to Madrid with the specific mission of breaking Barca's stranglehold at home and in Europe, but after disputing nine Clasico clashes with the Catalans, the Portuguese appears no closer to cracking the code. He may yet win La Liga, but will even that be enough to save the Portuguese his job at the end of the current campaign?


In his first Clasico, Mourinho suffered his worst-ever defeat as coach, losing 5-0 to the Catalans in a one-sided encounter at Camp Nou. And although credit was restored as Mourinho's men beat Barca to win the Copa del Rey last April, the Catalans claimed the biggest prizes: La Liga and the Champions League, the latter following a convincing two-legged semi-final victory over the capital club in April and May.

This term, however, things were supposed to be different. Mourinho's much-heralded second-season improvement was supposed to see Madrid step up their game and finally Barca toppled. But so far, things haven't exactly gone according to plan.


The 2011-12 campaign began with the Spanish Supercopa and it was a positive performance by Madrid in both legs, but even with the pertinent preparation in pre-season and arriving in superior shape to their rivals, Mourinho's men saw themselves edged out 5-4 on aggregate.

And there was more optimism ahead of December's La Liga clash at the Bernabeu, with Madrid effectively able to open up a nine-point advantage with a victory. But after the early gift of a goal on 22 seconds, Barca once again assumed control and triumphed 3-1.

It was similar story last night, too, and the frustration was tangible at the final whistle as jeers ran around the famous home of European football's most successful side.

Down in the press room, Mourinho accepted full responsibility for the reverse. There were no excuses or protests from the Portuguese this time; they had bean beaten and that was that. But he had heard the murmurs of discontent from the crowd, and is having to deal with a prickly press pack, too, after this latest Clasico calamity.

I have a lot of confidence and I don't think about being sacked. Four years of contract is enough to win, to build a strong team for the present and future.
- Mourinho after he was unveiled at Madrid


After the game, Marca ran a report entitled "Mourinho, that's not how you do it either" while Spain's best-selling newspaper also published a video montage in which Real fans called for the Portuguese coach to step down.

Also, in the build-up to the game, a journalist from the network's radio station had questioned the Portuguese in the pre-match press conference. "How many titles do I have to win in order to avoid being questioned?" the Portuguese responded.

The answer wasn't clear.

The Mourinho message last night, however, was clear: attentions will be switched back to La Liga at the weekend. Yes, they would try to overturn the tie in Barcelona next Wednesday, but for now the Primera Division takes priority. And would he be happy to win it without beating Barca? "Yes," he said. "I'd feel great."

Madrid lead Barca by five points with 18 games played and La Liga looks theirs for the taking, even though another trip to Camp Nou awaits between now and the end of the season. By then, the teams' fate in this cup tie will long have been decided, while the fierce foes may meet again in the Champions League, too.


A league win would represent a satisfactory outcome in Mourinho's second season at the Santiago Bernabeu, and it would see him claim a title in a fourth different country, having racked up championship successes in Portugal, England and Italy already.

That is a personal goal for the Portuguese and once attained, he may decide he is better off elsewhere. Or the decision may even be made for him. Madrid have dispensed with winning coaches before, famously axing Jupp Heynckes after he had won the Champions League in 1998, sacking Vicente del Bosque following a period of sustained success a few years later and then firing Fabio Capello after the Italian ended a trophy drought by winning La Liga in 2006-07.

Capello's case is a similar one to that of Mourinho. The Italian's Madrid side played pragmatically, but lacked style and substance. It was not the Madrid way. And the same thing can be said for Mourinho. At the moment, Madrid fans would tolerate inferior possession and even poorer play if it meant beating Barcelona on a regular basis.

The problem is that it doesn't and Wednesday night's match, although played with something of a makeshift line-up by Madrid in terms of the defence, showed the Catalans' control may yet remain for some time to come. And if that pattern continues to the end of the season, winning La Liga may just be Mourinho's parting gift to the Madrid cause.

En meget interessant analyse, Hayward stiller nogle gode spoergsmaal. Er Mourinho den rette mand for Real Madrid, det mener jeg ikke selvom han saa endte med at vinde La Liga i aar ( Gud forbyde det!).

Mourinhos store problem er netop, at hans hold ikke har en klar filosofi, ikke et klart spilkoncept, de har ikke en klar identitet. I gaar faldt han tilbage til sin defensiv omgang fodbold, naeste stiller han sikkert med 4-3-3, saa er der 4-2-3-1 osv osv. Det er sjaeldent han vaelger at spille paa egne praemisser, og han laegge hele sit om efter modstanderen, det er uholdbart, isaer i en klub som Real Madrid. I Real er det saadan, at man skal spille paa egne praemisser, ikke modstanderens. Saadan plejede det i hvert fald at vaere, men det er ikke tilfaeldet mere.


Derudover synes jeg ikke hans profil passer til Real. Ja han er et stort traener-navn,. ingen tvivl om det, men som jeg har navent utallige gange foer, Real Madrid som klub har foer i tiden droppet eller fyret store traener-navne. Det er ikke blot nok at have et stort navn, man skal ogsaa have en vis klasse, en vis personlighed, og den besidder Mourinho simpelthen ikke. Oejenprikkeri, konstant brok om dommere, konflikt soegende og i mange tilfaelde ogsaa respektloes, det er ikke Real Madrid vaerdigt. Hvis Madridsta vil have at deres klub skal tages serieost igen, saa er det foerste skridt at skille sig ad med manden som styrer klubben ( nej det er ikke laengere Perez der goer det).

Det er min personlig holdning, men jeg mener heller ikke det bare er nok at have en traener i en storklub, som kun leverer trofaer. Han skal ogsaa vaere med til at bygge og udvikle ungdomsafdeling, give flere unge spillere chancen og vaere mere involveret i klubben, det mener jeg ikke Mourinho har gjort her, eller gjorde i sine tidligere klubber. Selvom mange har den forkerte opfattelse af, at i Chelsea gad man ikke fokusere paa ungdoms akademi, saa var det lige netop en af grundene til man ansatte Arnesen og det foerte til en fyring af Mourinho. Man ville nemlig udvikle deres ungdomsafdeling, men Mourinho virkede ikke synderlig interesseret i det, indtil man ansatte Arnesen. Mourinho blev lige pludselig interesseret i ungdomsafdelign, men saa var det ligesom forsent.

Jeg synes ikke at Mourinho egentlig har saa meget mere at byde paa, end hans evne til at vinde trofaer, det er han saa til gengaeld dygtig til, men som sagt, det mener jeg ikke er nok i en klub som Real. Det kan folk som Heynckes, Capello ( i to omgange) m.fl skrive under paa. Jeg synes ikke han er innovativ, altsaa det er jo ikke fordi han finder nye taktiske formularer, eller har revolutioneret fodbolden med sine taktiske tiltag, selvom han af en eller anden mystisk grund bliver betegnet som et taktisk geni. Hans spil er heller ikke revolutionerende, den spillestil har man set foer. Hans arbejder med talenter er heller ikke ligefrem imponerende ( nej det er ikke nok at give debut til talenter hist og her, man skal udvikle dem og goere dem til en baerende del af holdet), og nu kan han tilsynsladende ikke vinde kampe mod en rival, noget han ellers har vaeret dygtig til.

Jeg synes Real vil goere sig selv en bjoernetjeneste, hvis de vaelger at holde fast i Mourinho. Min opfattelse er nemlig, at han skader klubben mere end han gavner den.

[Visca El Barca]

Ogsaa en artikel fra Sid Lowe. Det er altid en fornoejelse at laese hans blog.

Real Madrid damage image, reputation and status in defeat to Barcelona

Madrid's ill-tempered one-dimensional showing in the clásico was evidence of regression, not progression under Mourinho



As José Mourinho prepared to leave the Santiago Bernabéu press room and the clock ticked towards one in the morning, he had one last message to deliver. "Victory," he said for the third time, "has many fathers; defeat has only one and that is me. That's the way football is and I am used to it." Then he added a request: "Hit me, not my players – leave them alone." In part, he got what he wanted but only in part. They did indeed hit Mourinho but they hit his players too.

Players? Player. Two things dominated the post-match agenda: Mourinho's Madrid losing the game and Pepe losing his head. There was a familiar feel to both of them. Pepe is a repeat offender and so are Madrid. They lost another clásico; Pep Guardiola is unbeaten in seven trips to the Santiago Bernabéu, winning five of them. Since Mourinho took over at Madrid, he has not once been able to defeat Barcelona in 90 minutes. The solitary victory came via an extra-time winner in last season's Copa del Rey final. Madrid also lost something less tangible. Image, reputation, status.

When Madrid won the Copa del Rey, it appeared to be a stepping stone towards a real challenge on Barcelona. Defeat in the Champions League last season was justified with Mourinho's conspiratorial discourse – and Pepe's supposedly unlucky red card. The Spanish Super Copa at the start of this season offered up a Madrid side closer than ever to Barcelona, despite a 5-4 aggregate defeat. But now the sensation is one of regression not progression.

Defeated in the league last month, defeated here, Madrid offered virtually nothing. A midfield designed only to stop Barcelona – in which Xabi Alonso was nudged right, away from the area where he could truly influence the game – that did not stop Barcelona and certainly did not attack them. It was built around Pepe. If he defined Madrid's approach, most did not like what they saw. "Pepe returned to the midfield and brought out his entire repertoire of misdemeanours," said AS. One in particular would stand out, when he deliberately trod on Messi's hand. It was not as if, assault aside, he had helped much, either.

Mourinho complained about one of the goals his side conceded, describing it as "not normal". He also contradicted his 'blame me' message to snap: "Some players who normally play well played badly." And yet he admitted that part of his plan consisted simply of running the clock down. By the final whistle Barcelona's superiority was overwhelming. Madrid had 28% of the possession in their own stadium and just one shot on target.

And, asked the media, for what? For what Marca's cover described as "the never-ending story". "Mou," it added, "still hasn't found the right key and he is left without excuses." AS saw Mourinho "coming up against the wall". Its cover was clear: "Madrid offered dirtiness; Barcelona offered football."

Santiago Segurola wrote: "Madrid committed treason against their own history. Mourinho threw away all Madrid's history and instead insisted on a lamentable match from which he got no benefit for Madrid. It was all bad: the result, the play, the violence." In Público, Kike Marín saw the white flags by fans before the game as the perfect metaphor for Mourinho's management. El País led on "Madrid sully themselves for nothing". AS's editor Alfredo Relaño asked: "If you're just going to keep losing what's the need to lose your decorum too?"

The lasting image of this game was not so much defeat but Pepe's apparently calculated and cowardly stamp on Leo Messi. He was booked for a bad challenge on Sergio Busquets in the 17th minute and the surprise was that it was the only yellow card he saw. Ricardo Carvalho was fortunate to escape greater punishment too, for a wild hack at Messi. Xavi Hernández described Pepe's stamp as "senseless" and "lamentable". Carles Puyol called it "not normal" and insisted that something "has to be done". Mourinho hid behind the fact that he had not seen the incident but, pushed on the issue, admitted that if Pepe had deliberately trodden on Messi's hand that would be "censorable".

If Mourinho did not see it, everyone else did – except the referee, César Muñiz Fernández. TV cameras showed the incident clearly and Pepe is on the cover of all four sports dailies. Marca called it "unacceptable" and "shameful", its editorial admitting: "The episode with [Getafe midfielder Javi] Casquero cannot be seen as isolated, but the sad reality. Pepe is not worthy of Real Madrid."

As for the Catalan daily El Mundo Deportivo, there was indignation and enjoyment. Its cover talked of "Heroes and villains: Barcelona imposed their football on Madrid's violence". "Pepe, a danger to the public," the paper added, "was the greatest expression of a Madrid side that was impotent and out of control." Inside, Fernando Polo insisted: "Good had beaten evil." And that, he said, "is not melodrama, it is the truth: Barcelona wanted the ball and attacked and beat a Madrid side that has a complex, a violent team lost in its own lack of control and adrift thanks to Mourinho – the man that was supposed to end Barcelona's hegemony."

Som man kan se, selvom medierne ikke kritserer Mourinho i DK, saa hagler kritikken ned over ham i Spanien!. Her i DK er han bare "The Special One", primaert fordi de fleste af vores tidligere fodboldsspillere som nu har vigtige rolle paa TV, kan ikke andet end at rose ham. Men det ser ud til at man i Spanien er godt traet af ham og hans negativ taktik og tilgang.

Det er vel ikke en hemmelighed, at El Clasico paa det sidste har vaeret omringet af kontroverser, og sjovt nok startede det efter Mourinhos ankomst, det tror jeg ikke er tilfaeldigt. Jeg kan ogsaa huske at hans spillere i Chelsea havde en maerkelig attitude, og den kaempede de at komme af med, selv efter hans afgang. Hans spillere var ogsaa involverede i nogle slagsmaal da han var i England, hvor isaer en i (Carling cup finalen?) gik over gevind. Der var vist 2-3 spillere, som efterfoelgende fik karantaene efter episoden.

Jeg tror simpelthen ikke at det er tilfaeldigt, at Real spillere nu opfoerer sig som de goer, og der i hver El Clasico kan opstaa ond stemning. Mourinho er ogsaa ret god til at hente spillere, som har en svinsk side.

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Når Real Madrid i aften scorer sit andet mål i kampen mod Athletic Bilbao er det samtidig holdets mål nr. 100 i denne sæson.

øhhh er de allerede foran med 2-0 inden kampstart?det har jeg squ aldrig hørt om
ikke hvis men når hold kæft en gang blærerøve,kan man andet end hade den latterlige forestilling af en klub
FUCK MADRID.

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